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Can God Love Anyone In Hell, Revisited Again

"I think God loves the people in hell. He doesn't love Satan or Satan's angels, but he certainly loves the people in hell. Also, I think it is very wrong for you to assume that every single person that goes to hell is a person who hates God, and loves sin. It is wrong to assume that all reject Christ, it is wrong to say that they are alll full of hate towards God. Please understand the reason why someone would go to hell. I BELIEVE (notice, this is an opinoin) that people don't go to heaven based on whether or not they have accepted the Lord as their Savior. Here's why, Jesus died for EVERYONE just because you don't accept that he died for you doesn't mean that he didn't die for you. So, everyeone is saved, but not everyone goes to heaven because heaven isn't about being saved. I believe that people go to heaven because they love God. When Christ died for us he gave everyone the opportunity to love God because before his death loving God was not possible to the degree that it is now. Going to heaven doesn't have to do with getting saved. Otherwise everyone would go. No, Christ died so that those who love God could be with God, and those that didn't could not be with God. Heaven is being with God, for all eternity. Hell is being without God for all eternity. If you don't LOVE God your not going to heaven, pure and simple. If you love God your going to heaven. See, a lot of people let sin rule them. When Christ died he gave us freedom. Freedom to love and obey, and freedom to not love and do whatever. Now John 3:16 says that God doesn't want anybody to perish and I believe that verse means that God doesn't want anybody to be from him. however, he doesn't want to have heaven fulll of people who don't want to be there. There is this freedom we have. See before the freedom we were slaves to sin. It owned us. Christ said no more, do as you will, sin can't have you. But many people choose to go back to their sin. Non-Believers go back to sin by sinning whenever they please, and by lacking morals. Believers go back to sin, by making laws, and doctrines, and fusses over sinful things. Believers are about in the same boat as the NB's, because they spend their time going against sin, and going against the World, and going against the Devil. When Jesus died he gave us freedom. Freedom to love God. Those that Love God will enter heaven. Those that know he is in control and Love him will be in heaven. Those that long for him, think about him all the time, pray to him all the time, speak of him at every opportunity will be in heaven. You can be saved, that's nice, but being saved doesnt make you any better than an unbeliever. Being saved alone won't get you into heaven. And I think this is why the church today is what it is. this is why Christian schools are no different if not worse than public schools. This is why Christians don't shine. This is why Christians are not doing what we should, it's because we have a lot of Christian who have gone back to sin, and gone back to being  about sin, yet Christ wanted us about him. If your main thing in life is not sinning or "being good" than your not going anywhere but down. Because your main concern should be loving God. Let me tell you all something. You will always fail. Period. You try not to sin and you will, you keeep trying to be a good person and you won't. Because you can't do it. It's not possible. You chose sin once before and you will always choose it. Don't tell yourself that you can go about not sinning. What you need is God, full focus, full love on God. Everything else means nothign without it."


While it is certainly debatable as to the condition of how people would feel toward God in hell, there is no debate that they're there because they simply rejected God's one and only Son Jesus Christ, as stated in the verses from John I quoted, for starters, and died without true repentance from sin toward God to salvation, since according to Acts 20:21 and other places in scripture, faith and repentance are required elements of biblical, eternal salvation.  Not all reject Christ, but not all truly receive Him and the love of God into their hearts when salvation comes (of course, this is not to use God's grace as a license for sin, as Paul speaks of in Romans 6).  And while it is true from the Word that Jesus died so that all may have eternal life, it is noteworthy how He only prayed for the ones given to Him in John 17 (NASB) rather than the whole world as one would expect Him to do if everyone in fact were truly saved:

John 17

The High Priestly Prayer
1 Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You,
2 even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.
3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
4 "I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.
5 "Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
6 "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.
7 "Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You;
8 for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me.
9 "I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours;
10 and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them.
11 "I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are.
12 "While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.

The Disciples in the World
13 "But now I come to You; and these things I speak in the world so that they may have My joy made full in themselves.
14 "I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 "I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.
16 "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.
18 "As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
19 "For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.
20 "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;
21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

Their Future Glory
22 "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;
23 I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me.
24 "Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
25 "O righteous Father, although the world has not known You, yet I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me;
26 and I have made Your name known to them, and will make it known, so that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."

But yes, we as true repentant and believing Christians should focus on showing God's love to a dying world rather than get caught up in sin or useless legalistic debate.

Blessings,
Shaun



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