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Knowing what you believe and why is at least as important as the believing itself.
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Dec 12, 2007 at 11:13pm
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I certainly take my commitments seriously! :) Well... except paying that nasty cell phone bill on time...

Anyway, in response to the posts asking how homosexuals can still be Christians- God does not not tolerate homosexuals. After all... we're still around. God would've done us all in, had He decided He hated us.

See, God don't make junk. I'm not a "waste" of anything, I think. In fact, I'm a decent person. In response, simply, the Book of Wisdom, chapter... 11, I believe... hold on...

*flipping pages... flipping... flipping...*

Ah, yes, here we are. Wisdom 11:24-12:1 basically says, "God loves the stuff He made, because He wouldn't make something He didn't love and care about."

And, if God is the Supreme Being and Creator and Big Kahuna in general, then God's the ONLY one who coulda made me, or any of us. So, clearly, God loves us.

And...

Using pro-creation as a reason to not allow gay marriage is in my mind silly. My friend Jeremy doesn't want kids. It doesn't mean his marriage is invalid. Also, lots of folks are sterile! They can't make babies, they can only perform sexual acts. That doesn't make their marriage invalid.

In the same way, homosexuals can't make babies, but we can perform sexual acts...

I think that's what makes people weirded out- gay sex. And that's okay! A lot of people do a lot of things in bed, that, thanks to the internet, I've been inundated with, and a lot of it freaks me out. Big time. But that doesn't mean I think they should feel guilt over it. (Unless it involves an animal, a kid, or a non-consenting partner- there's a huge difference between sex and rape.)

I wish people weren't bothered by my relationship, but I understand that they are. So I try to make people feel less... intimidated, I guess... by avoiding public displays of affection, not wearing "pride" jewelry, not doing any of that, well, "gay stuff." It's the best I can do, y'all. But I will NOT walk away from my husband, or from his daughter, simply because people think it's wrong.

I guess that's part of it, too- just because people say it's wrong, doesn't mean gay folks will quit trying to get married. And they won't stop having relationships. So maybe it's silly to argue either way, you know? What will happen, will happen. But for the sake of conversation (and an intelligent one at that... thanks, guys!), I'll speak my mind.

In closing- you are wonderful people, and it gives me great hope that there are still folks out there who can host a topic as emotionally and spiritually driven as this and keep their cool. Maybe the world isn't a crummy place after all. :)

Peace,
Ray
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Gay Marriage? · 12-02-07 12:20am
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Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-02-07 1:34am
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Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-02-07 8:45am
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-02-07 4:51pm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-05-07 9:49pm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-11-07 7:06am
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-11-07 9:14pm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-11-07 10:30pm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-12-07 8:04am
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-12-07 4:26pm
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gay Marriage? · 12-12-07 8:23pm
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Re: More reply: Gay Marriage? · 12-13-07 10:36am
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