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For Authors: May 01, 2013 Issue [#5642]

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 This week: What's Grammar Have to Do with Anything?
  Edited by: Vivian Author IconMail Icon
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         Last time I wrote about the need for good grammar for writers to use whenever they write. Some people argued that worrying about grammar stifles creativity. I disagree, and I'm not the only one.
         In the article I briefly mentioned that often people are promoted, or not, based on their grammar usage. Oh, my, one would think I had torn a hole in a valuable painting. However, my research shows I'm correct.


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Letter from the editor

What Does Grammar Have to Do with Anything?


         Some writers fight the idea that grammar (including sentence structure, punctuation, subject/verb agreement, pronoun usage, spelling, etc.) impacts the worthiness of writing, which is like saying failing to lay a solid foundation does not impact the stability of a building. However, many people don’t realize that the use of grammar influences a person’s future in business from being hired, to receiving promotions, to validity as a professional.

         Speech and English instructors inform students that how they speak and how they use their language can determine whether an employer hires them or not. Many applications include the need to write a paragraph. Those who evaluate the applications read the paragraph to gain knowledge of the applicants education in language usage. During an interview, if an applicant uses correct grammar and word usage, he will be considered over another applicant with the same credentials but poor grammar and speaking ability. A person doing the interview will become distracted by incorrect grammar and rough speaking patterns, and the applicant loses in the process.

         According to Naphtalia Leba as well as other experts, poor grammar and word choice leads to unclear communication. Kyle Wiens, CEO of iFixit, (Harvard Business Review, July 20, 2012) states he will not hire people who use poor grammar. “I have a zero tolerance approach to grammar mistakes that make people look stupid.”

         Once a person is hired for a position, he faces the possibility of promotion and pay raises. Kyle Wiens’ article includes the following:

                   Good grammar makes good business sense — and not just when it comes to hiring
                   writers. Writing isn’t in the official job description of most people in our office. Still,
                   we give our grammar test to everybody, including our salespeople, our operations
                   staff, and our programmers.


         He continues to show that grammar does have something to do with job performance, creativity, and intelligence. If someone can’t properly use “it’s” after many years, then that person has a defective learning curve. People who make fewer mistakes on a grammar test make fewer mistakes in other activities not related to writing, such as stocking shelves or labeling parts. People who care about grammar (the details of good writing) also care about other details.


         Cheryl Conner, in her article for Forbes (March 11, 2013), gave the results of a study involving English-speakers in industry. 1. Professionals with fewer grammar errors in their profiles had achieved higher positions. 2. Fewer grammar errors correlate with more promotions. She cites Brad Hoover, CEO of Top Ten Reviews who says grammar skills indicate the following positive workplace traits: Attention to detail; critical thinking; and intellectual aptitude.

         The use of poor punctuation, grammar, and word choice leads to unclear communication. If a person’s writing is confusing, if his spoken words are unclear, confidence in him will be poor, too. The adherence to the “rules” helps build a positive impression involving client relationships, communicating with co-workers, and impressing employers.

         As Naphtalia Leba (unknown source) added, “Unclear, confusing or ambiguous writing causes misunderstanding and misinterpretations. These can lead to costly mistakes, hurt feelings, lost money, and legal issues.” The same is true of unclear, confusing or ambiguous speech.

         Proper grammar usage is important not only in writing stories, novels, and other books, but also for writing in business and for use in speaking.


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         I'm amazed at the reactions to articles, which are written and presented to help people become better writers. Some people appreciate finding material that aids them; others become upset that anyone dare suggest that we should improve. Ah, people ... what marvelous creatures we are.


StephBee Author IconMail Icon
Vivan, I don't know if this fits, but I discovered Judith McNaught and read "Whitney, My Love." The book has been out a while and has a lot of good reviews so I was looking forward to reading it. Halfway in the the name of the Butler changes and the writing becomes not as crisp as before. That annoyed me how the Butler's name changed. Then about 3/4's in, the Butler's name changed back to what it was and the writing gained it's orginal crispness. I couldn't help but feel the editor forgot to edit the middle.

         I shudder every time I read books full of errors, and more and more books are full of more and more errors, especially from some of the major publishers. What a shame.


seekcourage17
I would like to comment, on the newsletter, article, Don't Shoot Yourself in the Foot. It's true that alot of people think they can write, but, really don't have the education or understanding required. I enjoy writing, but, if its not properly written I don't like to submit it. Others might not know the process of writing correctly and acurately because almost anything you submit is acceptable. Its fun to write what you like, but I think shes right, it should be written properly to understand the rules and the idea of educated thoughts.

         We all make mistakes from time to time, but we need to work hard to eradicate typos and mistakes. If we don't, then we aren't good writers.

ruwth Author IconMail Icon
Viv,
I don't have an example to offer you but I do want to agree with your article encouraging writers and EDITORS not to shoot themselves in the foot with sloppy work online.
I have visited webpages of folks advertising their services as editors. The first thing I do is look at the writing on the website itself. If it is not polished and professional, I would not use their services or refer folks to them.
You have made a valid point.

         Thanks, ruwth.

BIG BAD WOLF is Howling Author IconMail Icon
There's this series I'll call RW by an author I'll call BJ (odds are that some will know who/ I'm talking about.) Now, I love his novels, got all 22 of them, but every so often, when I'm reading them, I'll come across a very obvious error, and I'm not talking about a character's dialect; I have to stop and chuckle for thirty seconds wondering "How'd they miss this?" Good reads though.


Oldwarrior Author IconMail Icon
Well done and informativr. You messe up on promotion though.


Quick-Quill Author IconMail Icon
I won't put in worst grammar finds as they are all in my PORT. I admit that when it comes to grammar I'm a total retard. I can't sugar coat it. I just don't get it. I'm sure there are others who love to write but just never "got" the rules. I'm so thankful for those who read/review my port and tell me where to make the changes. Its like being color blind, I don't see whats wrong. "That's important to Mary and I." to use the proper "me" sounds as if I were using bad grammar. My ear is pleased with the use of "I" in this case. All the English teachers must hear nails on the blackboard. We all are different. Thank you editors out there who take the time to correct my mistakes. I appreciate it more than you know!

         Would you say "That's important to I"? I hope not. Therefore, why would "That's important to Mary and I" sound proper?

Veritas Author IconMail Icon
I don't have any sentences showing poor writing to share. I just wanted to thank you for this article; it's one of my pet peeves when people can't be bothered to spell properly on social networks. :)

         Thank you. I agree.

nick133:
I agree that proofreading work before submitting it is important. Some people, however many time they go through their work, will never get it right, myself included. Are we to stop writing? Take up a new pass time, just because we put a few commas in the wrong places.
"but businesses are expecting their candidates for employment or promtion to use grammar the right way."
Even the best of us make the occasional mistake.

         I stated several times that all of us make mistakes, but it's up to us to improve. You attack the article rather than use it to help become a better writer. Most of us use editors to help us proof our work because we do tend to overlook our own errors. You put a line from the last issue, but I don't know why. I do cover that topic this issue.

Joto-Kai Author IconMail Icon
One error that bothers me, which I've seen recently, is when people "clinch" their teeth rather than "clench". I should hope your dentist fastened them securely, and you only have to push them together tightly.

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clickabic
One of the things I hear that makes my spine crawl is when I hear someone say (as an example) "Where are you at?" Or "It depends on where you're at." I wish "at" could be stricken from the English language. It is egregious English grammar to end a sentence with "at". Then there are professional journalists, Elizabeth Vargas, for one, who don't know when to use lay and lie. Aren't professional journalists supposed to be WORDSMITHS with a college education? And they still do not know? Throughout our lives we will be judged three ways: the way we dress, the way we speak, and the way we write. That is a fact of life. It is pathetic how many seniors graduate from high school and still do not know the difference between loose and lose. It is THEIR loss.

         I finally stopped contacting my local media about the poor language usage from reporters and commentators. "The fire burned the house there to the ground." Etc.

Thank you for joining me again this issue. I'll be back in about four weeks, and I'll share ideas and help I receive at the OWFI writers conference May 2-4.

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