Thanks for plugging the Up for Discussion forum in this newsletter. We all really appreciate it, especially since I'm not too sure how helpful your own experience with us turned out to be. Hopefully, as we get more practice with this, the forum will become a unique resource for all different kinds of writer's needs. Thanks so much for the plug!!
It can take a while to get something like this off the ground, but it’s a good idea. I hope things are picking up for you!
I really enjoyed the article about search engines but sometimes Google scholar is actually better than Pub-Med. I tried them.
Thank you so much for this newsletter! One of the nicest reviews (and honest, I'm afraid) I got, complained about my POV, and now, I might actually know what they were talking about!
Oh, what’s this “honest, I’m afraid” nonsense? I know you - you appreciate honesty, or you’d be cursing my name by now. I’m glad my editorial on POV helped. It’s a tough thing to master. It’s like Backgammon - an easy game to learn, but it takes years to master the strategy.
Thanx for clearing up first, second and third person narratives for us, I kinda knew, but wasn't entirely sure about 2nd. It's really hard and only really works in short pieces I think, but it can be very interesting and effective, draws the reader in and all that.
Second-person POV is common in the old text-based adventure games. It does give a sense of immediacy, and attempts to draw the reader into the story by making him a character in it. Unfortunately, it can backfire; I tend to read these things with skepticism, and if they assume too much about what I’m thinking, feeling, or am likely to do next, I can be easily turned off and alienated. I agree that it works best in shorter pieces; there are very few good examples of novel-length fiction written in second person POV.
User Guides often employ it, though. It’s more friendly and direct. There, you use the imperative: “Open the case.” “Press the Ctrl key.” Yeah, I’m talking to YOU - the one reading this manual. The risk is in sounding too demanding, but it’s a big improvement over weird, convoluted, or passive constructions like: “The user must then open the case.” Or “The user is instructed to press the Ctrl key.” Or “The user opens the case.” (Yeah, sure he does - and he knows to do this HOW?)
In short, choose the POV that works best for your purposes and your audience. It’s always a good idea to practice writing in different POVs, so you can handle them comfortably as the need arises - or at least appreciate the difficulty of certain types of writing.
Your example of 2nd person POV was very masterfully done... I have to applaud you! *cheers*
This information of POV's was extremely helpful... However, you didn't mention that sometimes headhopping is usful in a story, but to a limited extent. Instead of doing it spontaneiously several times within a chapter (i think this was what you meant) to do it varying from chapter to chapter... There are exeptions to every rule. For an example, see 'The Bartimaeous Trilogy', which goes from 1st person on Bartimaeous's part, to 3rd person limited in Nathanial and Kitty across several chapters. Overall it makes for a delightful read and is very masterfully handled.
But this was a great newletter and touched on a subject that you very rarely find...
SilverGryphon
As you point out, there are exceptions to every rule. I didn’t suggest how to employ head-hopping effectively, because although it’s usually more effective when there are chapter breaks between the various characters’ shifting viewpoints, it can be done other ways. Sometimes it’s best for writers to experiment - to risk falling flat on their fannies, if you will - than to try to offer formulas for effective rule-breaking. I agree, though; the most effective head-hopping usually occurs between chapters. Sometimes each main character narrates the same story in first-person POV, offering a very different perspective on events. That’s often quite entertaining, too.
When used effectively, there's nothing like the second person POV. Fight Club would never be the book it is if it didn't use second person.
Great news letter Jessie when I write my stories they help me in finding my grammar mistakes and run on sentences. Write On! I get alot of reviews that way.
I’m so glad you find the newsletter helpful!
Very informative newsletter! I enjoyed reading it and thinking of participating in one of the contests.
Thanks,
Jaya H.
Thank you!
Yes, just so you'll know that I'm reading your newsletter:
In the story example under second person, you wrote:
You grudgingly get out of bad.
“bad” should be "bed"
Lovin' it. Thank you.
Sincerely,
The Critic
Hahaha…okay, you got me! My bed--er, my bad. I rely on you and a few others to keep me humble and dancing on my toes.
Thank you for this piece on style books. Indeed, some of those burly things can be incredibly dry, so it is nice to see a few books that are a bit more on the "teaching is fun" side of the spectrum.
Thanks, Brian.
What an information-rich newsletter your brought to me - thanks!!
Thanks!
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